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Tim Larson's avatar

Really? You needed to say that?

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Airwolf!'s avatar

Everybody should say it every time his name is mentioned forever. All the "this is about people, relationships, and love" stuff was BS. We all got fooled.

I thought DeBoer was like Petersen, with a better understanding of what it took to compete at the elite level. It turns out he is just like every other sociopath, ladder climbing football coach, just with better PR.

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Tim Larson's avatar

It's not BS. He raised up Fresno State players and left after two years. And he raised up Husky players, too. You can be an honest, decent person and still have a burning desire to reach the top.

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Nick Davlantes's avatar

Anger like this is expected when a coach bolts. I expect that over time, DeBoer will be remembered more fondly when the initial sting subsides. At the same time, heтАЩs made himself an easier target by preaching all that family and loyalty stuff. At least we knew who Sark was.

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Curly Moe & Larry's avatar

And Sark gave us FIVE seasons. Sark did almost as much good for UW as KDB did AND left the program in MUCH better shape.

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Tim Larson's avatar

Are you saying the family stuff our players raved about was fake? They were just suckers? Christian just wrote that he thinks Deboer is a good and decent guy. Has Christian been suckered too?

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OregonDawg's avatar

I think that KDB is a combination of several different things that really cannot truly coexist very well in one human being. He is totally driven to win at the highest levels of FBS football - he has been ever since he left USF after winning two or three NAIA Titles there. He was on a race, quite literally, to get to the very top of the coaching totem pole in as short of a time as humanly possible. Because he knew that he had begun his career at a very low level of football. I do think that he loves his players and wants to give them the best possible experience - and winning is a very big part of that. But I would have to say that his all-out drive to win overwhelmed him at this point in time. The funny part of that is that the loss to UM really hit him super hard, so it actually promoted the side of him that just burns to WIN no matter what. He can certainly do that at Bama if he is truly a good enough coach. If not he will get fired if he loses just three games, in all likelihood! He has made a bargain with the devil. Bama will just eat him alive if he fails there.

The word that I got earlier today is that something like only about 25% of the UW players even bothered to attend his final meeting with them - where he supposedly broke down and cried. If that is true it is very, very telling as to how they feel about being conned into sacrificing everything for him and his program. There were a number of Husky players that played in games with pretty serious injuries this season - including Penix and Johnson and Odunze. How does all of that look at this point?? Not very good, if you ask me. Coach Pete had the integrity and character to know how to keep his drive to win in balance with other things that are actually more important - certainly so in the longer run. The overwhelming drive to win actually worked to drive him out of coaching, as he allowed himself to accept that he simply did not like doing it any longer! He decided NOT to just keep chasing more wins and more money. KDB has put himself into the toughest coaching job there is in college football, in the sense that losing just a game or two is a major negative at Bama. Losing three games in a season could well be a firing offense for KDB. And not recruiting very well, which was the case for KDB at the UW - that would absolutely be a firing offense at Bama.

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Gaijin's avatar

interesting point you made about players playing hurt.. and it sure made wonder.. It brought to mind old movie Varsity Blues and the Coach played by Jon Voight. for the sake of the players he will coach I hope your assessment is wrong. And spot on about coach Pete, man I sure miss him on the sidelines.

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Airwolf!'s avatar

It sounds like he has, yes.

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